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MH17 passenger was found wearing oxygen mask, Dutch official says

By Mick Krever, CNN
October 9, 2014 -- Updated 1422 GMT (2222 HKT)


Debris from Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 sits in a field at the crash site in Hrabove, Ukraine, on Tuesday, September 9. The Boeing 777 is believed to have been shot down July 17 in an area of eastern Ukraine controlled by pro-Russian rebels. Debris from Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 sits in a field at the crash site in Hrabove, Ukraine, on Tuesday, September 9. The Boeing 777 is believed to have been shot down July 17 in an area of eastern Ukraine controlled by pro-Russian rebels.

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STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • The plane crashed July 17 in eastern Ukraine, killing all 298 on board
  • The crash report says the plane was brought down by "high-energy objects"
  • The Dutch foreign minister said one passenger was found with an oxygen mask
(CNN) -- A passenger on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was found wearing an oxygen mask when the victim's body was recovered in eastern Ukraine, the Dutch foreign minister and public prosecutor's office said.
"They did not see the missile coming; but you know that someone was found with an oxygen mask over (his or her) mouth? So (he or she) had time to do that," Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans told the Dutch talk show "Pauw" on Wednesday.
The Dutch public prosecutor confirmed the minister's account, saying that "during the identification process an oxygen mask was indeed found on a victim."

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"The mask was attached around the victim's neck with an elastic strap. The Netherlands Forensic Institute examined the mask for fingerprints, saliva and DNA, but the results were inconclusive," the prosecutor's office said in a statement Thursday."It is not known how and at what point the mask came to be around the victim's neck. The passenger's relatives were informed at the time. None of the other victims recovered were found to be wearing oxygen masks."
New information raises questions
The statements raise questions about what happened in the moments after the Boeing 777 was allegedly hit by a missile over eastern Ukraine July 17, in an area controlled by pro-Russian separatists. The fact that a passenger was able to put on an oxygen mask seems to dispel the idea that all 298 people on board were killed instantly in the air.

Dutch Official Criticized for Disclosure About Malaysian Plane Crash in Ukraine


PARIS - A senior Dutch government official's disclosure that one victim of the Malaysia Airlines plane crash in eastern Ukraine had been found wearing an oxygen mask led to dismay on Thursday among investigators and outrage among victims' relatives.

"People are shocked when they hear this and wonder what other information there is but isn't shared," Veeru Mewa, a lawyer representing the families of several Dutch passengers who died aboard the plane, told Dutch television.

Frans Timmermans, the foreign minister, mentioned the discovery of the oxygen mask late Wednesday during an appearance on a popular Dutch television talk show, where an interviewer brought up the July 17 crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, which killed 298 people.

Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch national prosecutor's office, expressed dismay about the disclosure on Thursday. He confirmed that forensics experts had found a yellow plastic oxygen mask around the neck of a male victim among the bodies that arrived at Eindhoven Air Base a week after the crash.

Several news organizations reported that the victim was an Australian, but Mr. de Bruin declined to confirm this.

Once the victim was identified, Mr. de Bruin said, investigators informed his next of kin, but withheld the information about the mask from the public while they sought further evidence that might help explain the discovery.

"We did not make it public because we are still investigating the circumstances and its significance," Mr. de Bruin said.

Mr. Timmermans quickly apologized to victims' families for the disclosure in a government statement. But by then, the remarks had already resulted in waves of angry comments as well as intense speculation on Dutch social media about what, if anything, the presence of the oxygen mask might indicate about the circumstances of the crash.

The plane, a Boeing 777-200, was headed from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and because the majority of those on board were Dutch, the Netherlands is handling the investigation. A preliminary report published last month by the Dutch Safety Board, which is leading the technical inquiry into the crash, found that the plane was struck at cruising altitude by several "high-energy objects" and most likely broke up in midair.

The most widely held view, at least in the West, is that pro-Russian rebels fighting the Ukrainian government in eastern Ukraine shot down the jet with a surface-to-air missile, mistaking it for a Ukrainian military plane. The safety board expects to publish a final report on the crash next summer and declined to comment Thursday on the significance of the oxygen mask.

Air crash experts said they were puzzled by the discovery.

George Bibel, a forensics expert and professor of mechanical engineering at the University of North Dakota, said that normally, in the case of a rapid decompression of the aircraft cabin, the plane's oxygen masks would deploy automatically.

"I can imagine a mask remaining around the neck as described," Professor Bibel said. "The plane ripped apart, some of the oxygen masks deployed, somebody managed to put one on."

But he also acknowledged the possibility that the mask was placed on the victim's body after the crash. Debris from the accident was scattered over several miles of farmland controlled by the rebels, and much of the site was left unguarded for days.

Evidence tampering, Professor Bibel said, "could also be an explanation."

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